I saw some more garbage on the forum today that is
compelling me to make a few ramblings here and let the forum know how I feel on
some things. Please understand I am not going for perfection here or editing my
post ten times, just telling you how I feel.
You need to be cautious on this forum. I know the mods do an excellent job of policing it, and you can see sticky posts as far as the rules, etc. But when you see an offer that looks too good to be true, you better do your homework...
Let's talk about coaching. I have a coaching program so I can relate.
Everyone and their brother and sister on the forum now are coaches. They take different angles: one goes towards the newbie marketer, one goes for the more experienced marketing person. I have seen coaching programs that charge $5000 or more, even ten thousand, telling you that you will make five figures a month in a year and offering no money back guarantee. Both types of programs are run by very good salesmen, who know how to talk to you to get you to buy.
Here's a word of advice: look at the reviews. I won't, but i can show you coaches who charge 500 bucks for a membership site with email support, and not one person has made money on the thread. Not one. yet, they bump it and keep selling. Why? Because people are looking for the magic bullet. My advice is to look for coaching on a specific method that has not only gotten the OP money, but his students vouch for him and show you proof. Period. All other coaching, don't waste your time or money.
I paid a well known warrior for coaching over the summer, 2k dollars. After three weeks and nothing was getting done, working, or happening, I asked for my money back. I got roughly 50% of it back, and was told that things he did that i could have outsourced on fiverr for 10 bucks were worth 1000 dollars. So just to warn you: even the well known warriors can hit you up with a bunk coaching program so be cautious.
Look for a coach with a solid reputation, and somebody that can teach you very specific things that will make you money. Make sure their students will tell you the coach is worth it.
I just paid for a coaching program in December which has been a real deal. I really didn't need the coaching, but the guy is honest and provides value, as well as methods that work to make money. So it was way worth it. His students went on and on about him in a positive manner. That's the kind of coaching you want.
THE JV SECTION
I have been scammed in the past on the JV section as have a lot of us. The mods have done an excellent job of keeping track of things there now, and less of it is happening, but be cautious.
There are guys posting ads for "jv" there, that are nothing but opportunities for them to make money. For example, a common one is posting a chance to mail their list with an offer and they take a cut. When in reality, they will write you and tell you that they don't like the offer, but you can pay them 100 bucks for a soload. there are a choice few warriors i would even consider paying money for a solo ad on. IF someone tells you this from a jv thread, report the post. Posting solo ads in the jv section or ANYTHING for sale is prohibited. search the classified forum and you will find well reviewed, highly affordable solos that work well.
Most of the offers on the JV forum are now legit, but everyone will get their ad approved then change it up. IF ANYBODY offers you ANYTHING that costs money on the jv forum, run like the wind.
Making money
By far and away the easiest way to make money online is to sell services. You know how to do something? Great. Sell it as a service. You don't know how to do something? That's great too. Get somebody to do it for you, and mark it up.
This of course requires work: I used to do my own seo services but i found a competent team to do them for me now. They do it the way I tell them to, and i pay them. It took me time and work and money to find the right workers, and a ton of time to perfect my system.
If you go and learn how to do something marketing related, you can make a killing. Offer some free review copies right here on the forum and you'll start to get clientele after you work at it.
Post ads on craigslist and backpage about your service. Send them to a professional looking website and watch the orders come in. Provide a great service, then build your buyers list. Your buyers will buy from you again and again.
Product creation
Product creation is another great way to make money. I'm not talking about here on the forum per-sea, as so much of what you will buy is someone's work that has been repurposed and sold as their own. All it takes apparently is a good sales page a number of affiliates that like their earnings per click and you can sell just about anything...lol
here's an idea. Do you know about something? write a book about it. make a wso about it and offer PLR rights. "how to train your dog PLR"...there are a number of warriors who do this and make a killing. Keep releasing PLR after PLR...include website templates and sales pages...just an idea...
I guess that's all on my rant for today. making money doesn't have to be hard as long as you know what you're doing and have a plan. The sooner you realize that there is no magic bullet to making money, the better off you'll be. Everyone in this game seems to be in it for themselves...gurus come out with a product and offer a commission. They make a great sales page. the affiliates don't even review the product and just send their lists in droves to buy it.
All I'm saying is try to look at things through your customers' eyes. provide something of true value and help somebody, and get paid for it.
I sincerely hope someone can get something out of my little rant today
and I'm out.
Matt
You need to be cautious on this forum. I know the mods do an excellent job of policing it, and you can see sticky posts as far as the rules, etc. But when you see an offer that looks too good to be true, you better do your homework...
Let's talk about coaching. I have a coaching program so I can relate.
Everyone and their brother and sister on the forum now are coaches. They take different angles: one goes towards the newbie marketer, one goes for the more experienced marketing person. I have seen coaching programs that charge $5000 or more, even ten thousand, telling you that you will make five figures a month in a year and offering no money back guarantee. Both types of programs are run by very good salesmen, who know how to talk to you to get you to buy.
Here's a word of advice: look at the reviews. I won't, but i can show you coaches who charge 500 bucks for a membership site with email support, and not one person has made money on the thread. Not one. yet, they bump it and keep selling. Why? Because people are looking for the magic bullet. My advice is to look for coaching on a specific method that has not only gotten the OP money, but his students vouch for him and show you proof. Period. All other coaching, don't waste your time or money.
I paid a well known warrior for coaching over the summer, 2k dollars. After three weeks and nothing was getting done, working, or happening, I asked for my money back. I got roughly 50% of it back, and was told that things he did that i could have outsourced on fiverr for 10 bucks were worth 1000 dollars. So just to warn you: even the well known warriors can hit you up with a bunk coaching program so be cautious.
Look for a coach with a solid reputation, and somebody that can teach you very specific things that will make you money. Make sure their students will tell you the coach is worth it.
I just paid for a coaching program in December which has been a real deal. I really didn't need the coaching, but the guy is honest and provides value, as well as methods that work to make money. So it was way worth it. His students went on and on about him in a positive manner. That's the kind of coaching you want.
THE JV SECTION
I have been scammed in the past on the JV section as have a lot of us. The mods have done an excellent job of keeping track of things there now, and less of it is happening, but be cautious.
There are guys posting ads for "jv" there, that are nothing but opportunities for them to make money. For example, a common one is posting a chance to mail their list with an offer and they take a cut. When in reality, they will write you and tell you that they don't like the offer, but you can pay them 100 bucks for a soload. there are a choice few warriors i would even consider paying money for a solo ad on. IF someone tells you this from a jv thread, report the post. Posting solo ads in the jv section or ANYTHING for sale is prohibited. search the classified forum and you will find well reviewed, highly affordable solos that work well.
Most of the offers on the JV forum are now legit, but everyone will get their ad approved then change it up. IF ANYBODY offers you ANYTHING that costs money on the jv forum, run like the wind.
Making money
By far and away the easiest way to make money online is to sell services. You know how to do something? Great. Sell it as a service. You don't know how to do something? That's great too. Get somebody to do it for you, and mark it up.
This of course requires work: I used to do my own seo services but i found a competent team to do them for me now. They do it the way I tell them to, and i pay them. It took me time and work and money to find the right workers, and a ton of time to perfect my system.
If you go and learn how to do something marketing related, you can make a killing. Offer some free review copies right here on the forum and you'll start to get clientele after you work at it.
Post ads on craigslist and backpage about your service. Send them to a professional looking website and watch the orders come in. Provide a great service, then build your buyers list. Your buyers will buy from you again and again.
Product creation
Product creation is another great way to make money. I'm not talking about here on the forum per-sea, as so much of what you will buy is someone's work that has been repurposed and sold as their own. All it takes apparently is a good sales page a number of affiliates that like their earnings per click and you can sell just about anything...lol
here's an idea. Do you know about something? write a book about it. make a wso about it and offer PLR rights. "how to train your dog PLR"...there are a number of warriors who do this and make a killing. Keep releasing PLR after PLR...include website templates and sales pages...just an idea...
I guess that's all on my rant for today. making money doesn't have to be hard as long as you know what you're doing and have a plan. The sooner you realize that there is no magic bullet to making money, the better off you'll be. Everyone in this game seems to be in it for themselves...gurus come out with a product and offer a commission. They make a great sales page. the affiliates don't even review the product and just send their lists in droves to buy it.
All I'm saying is try to look at things through your customers' eyes. provide something of true value and help somebody, and get paid for it.
I sincerely hope someone can get something out of my little rant today
and I'm out.
Matt
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